Naughty vs Nice: A Christian Podcast
Naughty vs Nice is a Christian podcast that takes Scripture seriously—especially where modern Christianity often doesn’t.
Rather than echoing popular church culture, we examine what the Bible actually teaches and where cultural assumptions, soft doctrines, and misplaced authority have quietly reshaped Christian belief. Many of the ideas treated as “biblical” today simply aren’t—and the consequences show up in marriages, churches, and personal faith.
Each episode walks carefully through Scripture in context, asking harder questions:
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What does the text actually say?
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What assumptions have we imported into it?
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What happens when the church teaches the wrong thing?
The topics are often controversial and unpopular—not because we’re chasing outrage, but because truth rarely aligns with comfort or trends.
This podcast isn’t about inspiration or self-affirmation.
It’s about discernment, responsibility, and faithfulness to the Word.
If you’ve sensed that parts of modern Christianity feel off—but you still care deeply about Scripture—this podcast is for you.
Naughty vs Nice is a Christian podcast that takes Scripture seriously—especially where modern Christianity often doesn’t.
Rather than echoing popular church culture, we examine what the Bible actually teaches and where cultural assumptions, soft doctrines, and misplaced authority have quietly reshaped Christian belief. Many of the ideas treated as “biblical” today simply aren’t—and the consequences show up in marriages, churches, and personal faith.
Each episode walks carefully through Scripture in context, asking harder questions:
-
What does the text actually say?
-
What assumptions have we imported into it?
-
What happens when the church teaches the wrong thing?
The topics are often controversial and unpopular—not because we’re chasing outrage, but because truth rarely aligns with comfort or trends.
This podcast isn’t about inspiration or self-affirmation.
It’s about discernment, responsibility, and faithfulness to the Word.
If you’ve sensed that parts of modern Christianity feel off—but you still care deeply about Scripture—this podcast is for you.
Episodes

Thursday Sep 04, 2025
Thursday Sep 04, 2025
In this episode of Naughty vs Nice, Todd, Laura, and Kelly dive into the growing influence of technology—smartphones, social media, and AI—on faith, family, and the church. Drawing from insights shared by Dr. Rosalie de Rosset, a longtime professor at Moody Bible Institute, the hosts explore how technology invades sacred spaces, numbs us to reality, and even fuels addictions like pornography. They discuss why many believers struggle to fast from their devices, what it means to guard intimacy and silence in daily life, and how parents and pastors can better disciple the next generation.
The conversation turns to the dangers of AI, deepfakes, and digital deception, asking: if you can’t tell what’s real anymore, how will you stand firm in your faith? The hosts emphasize the need for Christians to be grounded in Scripture, prepared for coming deception, and intentional about cultivating real presence with God and others.

Monday Sep 08, 2025
Monday Sep 08, 2025
Most prophecy debates start with assumptions. This one starts with the text. In this episode, we unpack Daniel 9:24–27 and show why the “day–year principle” (used throughout the OT) matters for understanding the Seventy Weeks, the timing of Messiah, and who actually puts an end to sacrifices. We also challenge popular end-times myths (futurist gap week, a singular political Antichrist, date-setting, numerology) and connect Daniel, Jesus’ ministry, Acts 7, and the AD 70 destruction of the Temple.
In this episode you’ll learn:
Why “days” often represent years in prophetic timing (Ezek 4:6; Num 14:34)
How Daniel’s 70 Weeks precisely point to Messiah’s ministry and crucifixion
Why “Antichrist” in Scripture is a spirit, not a single world ruler
How Stephen’s vision (Acts 7) confirms the Son of Man enthroned
Why reading prophecy by context, theme, and history beats verse-cherry-picking
What “thief in the night,” “rapture,” and the Revelation 12 sign do—and don’t—mean
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References (NASB1995 unless noted)Scripture
Daniel 9:24–27 (Seventy Weeks; covenant; end of sacrifice)
Daniel 7:13–14, 7:3–7, 7:25 (Son of Man; beasts as kingdoms; time statements)
Daniel 8:14; 12:7, 12:11–12 (prophetic day counts)
Ezekiel 4:6; Numbers 14:34 (day–year principle)
2 Timothy 2:15 (rightly handling the word)
Genesis 1:14 (lights for signs/seasons)
Revelation 12:1–2 (woman, sun, moon, stars)
Matthew 24:1–2; Mark 13:1–2; Luke 21:5–6 (Temple’s destruction foretold)
2 Peter 3:8; Psalm 90:4 (“a day is as a thousand years”—patience, not math trick)
Acts 7:54–60 (Stephen’s vision of Jesus at the right hand)
Matthew 27:51; Mark 15:38; Luke 23:45 (veil torn; access through Christ)
Revelation 13:1–2 (beast from the sea imagery)
1 Thessalonians 4:16–17; 5:2 (caught up; “thief in the night”)
Genesis 4:3–5 (Cain’s worship “his way” vs. God’s way)
People / Books / Other Mentions
Tim Keller
Left Behind series — Tim LaHaye & Jerry B. Jenkins
Titus & Vespasian (AD 70 Temple destruction)
Stellarium Web (sky model used to illustrate historical alignments)
Series Crosslinks
Previous: 70: Unmasking the AntiChrist
71: Who is the Man of Lawlessness
72: What does the Bible say about End Times and Christ's Kingdom?
73: Who are the Beasts in Revelation? Bible Prophecy Explained
Next: What is the Mark of the Beast?
Who is the Whore of Babylon?

Thursday Sep 11, 2025
90: Is the Rapture Biblical? The Day of the Lord, Tribulation & God’s Wrath
Thursday Sep 11, 2025
Thursday Sep 11, 2025
Does Scripture teach a secret rapture—or have we read that into the text?In this episode, Todd and Laura lay out a Bible-first walkthrough of end-times basics: tribulation vs God’s wrath vs the Day of the Lord. We compare Jesus’ words (Matt 24), Paul’s timeline (1 Thess 4–5; 1 Cor 15; 2 Thess 2), and Revelation’s “sevens” (7th seal, 7th trumpet, 7th bowl)—and show why they point to one climactic return of Christ, not a multi-stage pause/gap/secret exit.
What you’ll learn
Why “tribulation” ≠ “God’s wrath” and how the Day of the Lord is a sudden, consummating event
How Revelation’s 7th seal, 7th trumpet, and 7th bowl describe the same moment
Paul’s order of events: resurrection, transformation, gathering, judgment (no extra gaps)
Why “the one who conquers” (Rev 2–3) means faithful perseverance, not escape
A simple, coherent timeline that fits Jesus, Paul, and John—without math tricks or newspaper prophecy
Key takeaways
Christ’s return is visible, final, and comprehensive—“bam, bam, bam”—not staged.
Tribulation is normal Christian experience; wrath is God’s righteous judgment.
The Bible’s own cross-references make the timeline clearer and simpler than pop prophecy.
Questions or pushback?Drop a comment or email us: naughtyversusnice@gmail.comSubscribe for more Bible-first conversations on eschatology and Christian life.
🔖 References
Scripture cited
Genesis 4; Genesis 1:14
Psalm 90:4
Daniel 3; Daniel 8:14; Daniel 9:24–27; Daniel 12:7, 11–12
Ezra 7 (Artaxerxes’ decree)
Matthew 24:27–31 (cf. 24:2)
Luke 17:26–30
John 5:28–29
Acts 7:54–60; Acts 14:22
Romans 2:5; Romans 5:9
1 Corinthians 15:23–26, 51–56
1 Thessalonians 4:16–17; 1 Thessalonians 5:2–3
2 Thessalonians 1:7–10; 2 Thessalonians 2:1–3
2 Peter 3:8, 10
Revelation 4:1–5; Revelation 6:16–17; Revelation 7:14; Revelation 8:1–5; Revelation 11:15–19; Revelation 15:1; Revelation 16:17–21; Revelation 20:11–15
People / resources mentioned
John Nelson Darby; C. I. Scofield; Schofield Reference Bible
Dallas Theological Seminary
Luis de Alcasar
Tara Shalane

Monday Sep 15, 2025
91: What is the Mark of the Beast Really?
Monday Sep 15, 2025
Monday Sep 15, 2025
The Mark of the Beast Explained: Scripture, Symbolism, and the Choice of Allegiance
Description:In this episode of Naughty vs Nice, Todd, Laura, and Kelly dive deep into one of the most misunderstood prophecies in the Bible—the Mark of the Beast. Is it a microchip, a tattoo, or something far more subtle? Using Scripture first and history as context, the team unpacks what Revelation really means by a “mark on the hand or forehead,” showing how the Old Testament sets the framework and how the New Testament fulfills it.
They explore the connection between ancient trade guilds, Caesar worship, and modern “cancel culture,” highlighting how allegiance, conformity, and worship—not technology—are at the core of this prophecy. With parallels to recent global events, occult timelines, and Alice Bailey’s predictions about 2025–2026, the conversation reveals how the Beast’s system is a counterfeit of God’s kingdom.
If you’ve been wondering whether the Mark of the Beast is already here—or if it’s still to come—this episode will ground you in Scripture and help you discern truth from hype.
References:
Revelation 13:16–17; 7:2–3; 14:1; 9:4
Daniel 7; Daniel 3
Deuteronomy 6:6–8; 11:18
Exodus 13:9
2 Thessalonians 2:10–12
2 Peter 1:10
Matthew 6:24; 7; 13; 22; 25
John 17
2 Corinthians 11:13–15
Genesis 47
Hebrews 10:34
Mentioned:
Alice Bailey & Theosophy
Age of Aquarius (occult belief)
Lady Gaga & pop culture symbolism
Q-movement “dark to light” mantra

Thursday Sep 18, 2025
92: Are Christian Nationalism & Cultural Christianity a Counterfeit Gospel?
Thursday Sep 18, 2025
Thursday Sep 18, 2025
In this episode of Naughty Versus Nice, Todd, Laura, and Kelly unpack the rise of Christian nationalism and cultural Christianity—and why both offer a counterfeit gospel. From Bill Gothard and Teen Mania to modern movements and political activism, we trace how religion fused with empire has always led to abuse, fear, and misplaced loyalty.
We discuss:
Why Christian nationalism mirrors the Beast of Revelation.
How cultural Christianity offers belonging without repentance.
The dangerous appeal of “utopia” and comfort over the gospel.
Why the true kingdom of Christ is now—he is Prophet, Priest, and King in heaven today.
The story of Polycarp’s martyrdom and what it teaches about courage, loyalty, and faith under pressure.
This isn’t about rejecting politics or loving your nation. It’s about discerning the difference between the true Bride of Christ and Babylon’s counterfeit, between the gospel of Jesus and a gospel of morality, power, and belonging.
References:
Deuteronomy 7:6
Daniel 2
John 17
Romans 13
2 Corinthians 11:2
Ephesians 5:25–27
Revelation 13, 17–18
Revelation 19:7–8
2 Thessalonians 2:3
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Monday Sep 22, 2025
Monday Sep 22, 2025
In this episode of Naughty vs Nice, Todd, Laura, and Kelly unpack how youth-movement hype, emotional manipulation, and culture-war messaging primed a generation for Christian nationalism and cultural Christianity. From rally-style events and “battle cry” branding to love-bombing, in-group/out-group dynamics, and pay-to-play internships, we trace recognizable cult tactics—and why they leave people with shallow faith, spiritual confusion, and disillusionment.
We also talk practical red flags for parents and churches:
Leaders speaking “with God’s authority” to coerce behavior
Manufactured spiritual highs and forced emotional responses
Morality checklists and faction-building (homeschool vs public school, etc.)
Money pressure and “if you really love God, you’ll pay” appeals
Signs of abuse patterns: push–pull, humiliation, and “you can never do it right”
This isn’t about dunking on worship nights or youth camps. It’s about resisting counterfeit discipleship that swaps biblical depth for hype—and learning to spot the seams where the world seeps in. If you’ve ever wondered why so many walked away in their 20s, this conversation might connect the dots.
Call to action: If you see these patterns in your youth space, ask questions. Sometimes it’s an honest miss. Sometimes it’s baked-in philosophy. Either way—discernment protects people.
References
Scripture cited: (None explicitly cited in this segment.)People/Orgs/Media mentioned:
Bill Gothard / IBLP (context to youth/legalism movements)
Ron Luce, Teen Mania Ministries, Acquire the Fire
Shiny Happy People (docuseries; Seasons 1 & 2 are discussed)
“Battle Cry” branding (Teen Mania)
General reference to documentaries on the “troubled teen”/military-style school industry

Thursday Sep 25, 2025
Thursday Sep 25, 2025
In this episode of Naughty Versus Nice, Todd, Laura, and Kelly dive deep into one of Revelation’s most mysterious figures: the Whore of Babylon. What does this symbol mean in light of the Old Testament? How do Daniel and Revelation connect? And why is it crucial to understand the difference between the true Bride of Christ and Babylon’s counterfeit religious system?
Together we unpack:
Why Revelation must be read through Daniel and the Old Testament.
How Scripture defines Babylon as pride, idolatry, exile, and rebellion.
The biblical imagery of God’s people as a faithful bride versus an unfaithful prostitute.
The Whore of Babylon as a false church: outwardly godly, inwardly occult.
How apostasy, luxury, and compromise with political power expose her.
Why discernment matters now more than ever—especially when Christianity gets mixed with politics, wealth, or New Age ideas.
By letting the Bible define its own symbols, we move past fear-driven speculation and into clarity, so believers can recognize deception and hold fast to Christ.
References:
Isaiah 47:1–3, 7–9
Jeremiah 3; Jeremiah 30:20; Jeremiah 51:7
Ezekiel 16
Daniel 2
2 Corinthians 11:2
Ephesians 5:25–27
Revelation 17–18
Revelation 19:7–8
2 Thessalonians 2:3
#WhoreOfBabylon #BibleProphecy #EndTimes #BookOfRevelation #MarkOfTheBeast #FalseReligion #BrideOfChrist

Monday Sep 29, 2025
95: Cain, Religion, and the Trap of Self-Sufficiency
Monday Sep 29, 2025
Monday Sep 29, 2025
Many people are waking up to the reality of evil in the world and returning to church for the first time in years—or even for the very first time. But what happens when they encounter a mix of truth and bad teaching?
In this episode of Naughty vs Nice, Todd and Laura explore the story of Cain and Abel—not just as the “first murder,” but as a warning about how humans approach God on their own terms. From Cain’s self-sufficient offering to modern-day religion, we discuss the danger of giving God what He never asked for, mistaking ritual for relationship, and hiding behind comfort instead of surrender.
We also connect Cain to Jude’s warning about Cain, Balaam, and Korah, showing how these threads run through Scripture as examples of rebellion, greed, pride, and false worship. The heart of the issue is always the same: Will we trust in God’s sufficiency, or insist on our own?
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References:
Genesis 4 – Cain and Abel
Matthew 7:24–27 – Building on the rock vs. sand
Matthew 15:1–10 – Traditions vs God’s commands
Hebrews 11:4 – Abel’s offering by faith
1 John 3:12 – Cain was “of the evil one”
Jude 1:5–13 – The way of Cain, Balaam, and Korah
Romans 7 – Dead to sin, alive in Christ







