Naughty vs Nice: A Christian Podcast
Naughty vs Nice is a Christian podcast that takes Scripture seriously—especially where modern Christianity often doesn’t.
Rather than echoing popular church culture, we examine what the Bible actually teaches and where cultural assumptions, soft doctrines, and misplaced authority have quietly reshaped Christian belief. Many of the ideas treated as “biblical” today simply aren’t—and the consequences show up in marriages, churches, and personal faith.
Each episode walks carefully through Scripture in context, asking harder questions:
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What does the text actually say?
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What assumptions have we imported into it?
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What happens when the church teaches the wrong thing?
The topics are often controversial and unpopular—not because we’re chasing outrage, but because truth rarely aligns with comfort or trends.
This podcast isn’t about inspiration or self-affirmation.
It’s about discernment, responsibility, and faithfulness to the Word.
If you’ve sensed that parts of modern Christianity feel off—but you still care deeply about Scripture—this podcast is for you.
Naughty vs Nice is a Christian podcast that takes Scripture seriously—especially where modern Christianity often doesn’t.
Rather than echoing popular church culture, we examine what the Bible actually teaches and where cultural assumptions, soft doctrines, and misplaced authority have quietly reshaped Christian belief. Many of the ideas treated as “biblical” today simply aren’t—and the consequences show up in marriages, churches, and personal faith.
Each episode walks carefully through Scripture in context, asking harder questions:
-
What does the text actually say?
-
What assumptions have we imported into it?
-
What happens when the church teaches the wrong thing?
The topics are often controversial and unpopular—not because we’re chasing outrage, but because truth rarely aligns with comfort or trends.
This podcast isn’t about inspiration or self-affirmation.
It’s about discernment, responsibility, and faithfulness to the Word.
If you’ve sensed that parts of modern Christianity feel off—but you still care deeply about Scripture—this podcast is for you.
Episodes

Monday Nov 03, 2025
Monday Nov 03, 2025
In this deep-dive episode, Todd and Laura unpack one of Jesus’ most famous but misunderstood teachings — the Parable of the Talents (Matthew 25:14–30). Most people read it as a lesson on money, gifts, or productivity. But in this episode, they show it’s really about faithful stewardship of the gospel of the Kingdom, not a prosperity or performance message.
Laura sets the scene in the Olivet Discourse, explaining how Jesus’ parables of the faithful servant, the ten virgins, and the talents all form one continuous teaching — not random stories. Todd traces the Greek and Hebrew terms for “talent” and how the word implies bearing weight, carrying something precious, and bringing it forth. Together they show how this points to the disciples’ responsibility (and by extension, the Church’s) to faithfully carry what Christ imparted — not to bury it in fear or apathy.
The conversation digs into:
How Western Christianity misreads the parable as personal development or prosperity.
Why the “lazy servant” represents fear-based religion and false faith, not simple failure.
How judgment begins with the household of God (1 Peter 4:17) — and what that means for believers today.
The difference between the judgment of fruit (for believers) and the Great White Throne judgment (for the unredeemed).
The heart issue behind stewardship: love and trust, not fear or performance.
Laura adds the relational dimension of multiplication, linking the parable’s “trading” to building relationships and investing spiritually in others. Todd connects it to the upside-down kingdom—where servanthood, humility, and discernment define true success.
This episode challenges the listener to rethink stewardship, discern the counterfeit gospels of self-improvement and fear, and recover the weighty joy of bearing the message of the Kingdom with urgency and love.
References (Scripture & Topics)
Primary Text: Matthew 25:14–30Supporting Scriptures:
Matthew 13:10–17, 23 (Parable of the Sower; “secrets of the kingdom”)
1 Corinthians 3:13–15 – Judgment of believers’ works
2 Corinthians 5:10 – Reward according to deeds done in the body
1 Peter 4:17 – Judgment begins with the household of God
Revelation 20:11–15 – The Great White Throne judgment
John 14–17 – The Upper Room discourse and the indwelling relationship
Sources Mentioned:
GotQuestions.org
TheologyOfWork.org
EnduringWord.com
Finds.Life.Church
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Thursday Nov 06, 2025
105: Not Opposite—Inverted: How the Occult Rewrites Jesus’ Parables
Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Not Opposite—Inverted: How the Occult Rewrites Jesus’ Parables
Average Christians assume Satan’s lies are the opposite of God. Todd & Laura argue they’re usually inversions—mirror images close enough to pass for truth. In this episode, we unpack how the Parable of the Talents (Matthew 25:14–30) gets twisted by occult frameworks (allegory, gnosis, “divine spark,” levels, reincarnation) and how that drift shows up in church culture as corporate metrics, positivity-at-all-costs, and self-help “stewardship” that quietly centers you instead of Christ.
We contrast parable vs. allegory, show why Jesus’ parables always point back to the Kingdom through the King, and offer a practical discernment grid for spotting parallel lies—from New Age “energy” language to prosperity takes that turn stewardship into self-advancement. We also talk shepherds, wolves in sheep’s clothing, the Church of Laodicea, and why real elders should know their flock well enough to spot predators before the tidal wave hits.
You’ll learn:
Why inversion (not contradiction) is the enemy’s favorite tactic
How occult readings reframe the talents as “hidden power” instead of the gospel of the Kingdom
A simple checklist to test vibes/“energy” talk, secret-knowledge claims, and level-up spirituality
How to keep the focus on becoming in Christ, not performing for Christ
Listen in, sharpen your discernment, and keep the main thing the Main Character.
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References
Scripture (ESV formatting preferred in show notes):
Matthew 25:14–30 – Parable of the Talents
Matthew 13 – Parables, wheat and tares, “secrets of the Kingdom”
John 10:3–5, 27 – Shepherd’s voice; sheep know Him
John 14–17 – Upper Room discourse; union, fruit, “apart from Me you can do nothing” (cf. John 15)
John 18:20 – “I have said nothing in secret”
Revelation 3:14–22 – Laodicea (“neither hot nor cold”)
Genesis 2–3 – Two trees, fall, serpent’s inversion
1 Peter 4:17 – “Judgment begins at the household of God” (alluded)
2 Corinthians 5:10; 1 Corinthians 3:13–15 – Christ’s assessment of believers’ works/fruit (alluded)
People / Works / Concepts Mentioned:
Aleister Crowley; Anton LaVey; Helena Blavatsky
Kabbalah/Kabbalism; Hermeticism; New Age / New Thought; Law of Attraction; “energy” language
Prosperity/wealth-building takes on the parable (generic)
Articles critiqued: occult-mysteries.org piece on the talents; a Medium article applying Kabbalistic frames
Cultural reference: World War Z (the “tenth man” illustration)

Monday Nov 10, 2025
Monday Nov 10, 2025
In this episode of Naughty vs Nice, Todd and Laura dive back into one of the most debated doctrines in modern Christianity — “Once Saved, Always Saved.”
Todd brings his raw honesty and deep wrestling with Scripture, questioning how God’s sovereignty, human free will, and the reality of apostasy fit together. Laura pushes the conversation further, reframing what “falling away” really meant to the first-century Jewish audience of Hebrews and what it means for believers today.
Together, they explore:• Why the “perseverance of the saints” became a dividing line between Calvinism and Arminianism• The biblical tension between election and human responsibility• How misreading Hebrews 6 and 10 can lead to fear, confusion, or false assurance• Why understanding apostasy demands a first-century Jewish context• How false security and cultural Christianity weaken the modern church• What Jesus’ parable of the sower reveals about true salvation and fruit
This episode doesn’t offer easy answers—it models how to wrestle faithfully with Scripture, think critically, and discern between the gospel of comfort and the gospel of truth.
📚 REFERENCES
Scripture CitedJohn 10:28–29Hebrews 6:4–6Hebrews 10:26–31Matthew 13:1–24 (Parable of the Sower)Romans 51 Corinthians 13Revelation 3 (Church of Laodicea)
Mentioned• John Calvin – Perseverance of the Saints• Jacobus Arminius – Free Will and Conditional Salvation• Kit Culver – Hebrews Sermon Series• Jonathan Edwards – Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God• Naughty vs Nice Podcast

Thursday Nov 13, 2025
Thursday Nov 13, 2025
In this candid episode of Naughty vs Nice, we tackle the misunderstood command: “Honor your father and mother.” What does honor look like when parents (or authority figures) are manipulative, unsafe, or abusive? Laura, Todd, and Kelly unpack the biblical meaning of honor (Strong’s G5092, timē: value willingly assigned), why honor ≠ unlimited access, and how boundaries, truth-telling, and wise distance can be profoundly honoring—and more loving—than passive compliance.
We explore:
How Scripture frames honor as authentic, willing value, not coerced obedience.
The difference between forgiveness and reconciliation (and why reconciliation can require time, fruit, and safety).
Boundaries you can actually enforce—and how to communicate them.
Evaluating good vs. bad fruit and why “service” alone isn’t spiritual fruit.
Why obeying God rather than people matters when Scripture is weaponized.
What churches should do when abuse surfaces: advocate, report, protect.
Practical questions to discern health vs. harm in family dynamics.
If you’ve been told “honor” means enduring mistreatment, this conversation aims to untangle theology and give biblically grounded, real-world tools for walking in truth, love, and safety.
REFERENCES
ScriptureGenesis 2:24Exodus 20:12; Deuteronomy 5:161 Samuel 15:22Proverbs 22:24–25Matthew 7:16–20Acts 5:29Romans 12:18–19; Romans 13:10Ephesians 6:1–4Galatians 5:22–23Colossians 3:20–211 Timothy 5:81 Peter 3:9
People / Works Mentioned
Strong’s Concordance (G5092, timē, “honor”)
Timothy Keller (teaching on Ephesians 6 and parenting dynamics)
Example narratives referenced: Jacob & Esau; Isaac & Ishmael; Paul & Barnabas (Acts 15:36–41)

Monday Nov 17, 2025
108: Fasting: What is it? Should I do it?
Monday Nov 17, 2025
Monday Nov 17, 2025
In this episode of Naughty vs Nice, Todd, Laura, and Kelly tackle a topic almost every church gets wrong: fasting. Why do we do it? Should Christians today even practice it? And is it biblical for churches to pressure people into communal fasts “so God will move”?
The crew digs into the Old and New Testament, revealing that fasting was:• Only commanded once—on the Day of Atonement• Tied to repentance, humility, and self-denial, not spiritual point-scoring• Often abused in Scripture when it became performative or manipulative• Never prescribed by Jesus, except to warn how not to do it
They expose how Western church culture has adopted occult-like ideas—treating fasting as a way to “generate” spiritual power, manufacture revival, or earn God’s favor. Laura reframes fasting in its Jewish context, while Todd breaks down how coercion, guilt, and peer pressure have replaced genuine repentance. Kelly highlights how churches weaponize fasting language toward vulnerable people, including those with eating disorders.
You’ll walk away with a clearer picture of:• What fasting is and what it isn’t• How to discern if fasting is healthy or harmful in your context• Why abiding in Christ matters more than chasing spiritual experiences• Other modern “fasts” (phone, social media, spending) that may reveal more about your heart than skipping meals ever could
This episode pushes back against the shallow, mystical, guilt-driven fasting culture—inviting believers into something deeper, healthier, and rooted in Scripture.
📚 REFERENCES
Scripture CitedLeviticus 16:29–31Joel 2:12–13Nehemiah 9:1–2Isaiah 58Jeremiah 14:12Zechariah 7Matthew 6:16–18John 6 (Bread of Life)Acts 5:29Galatians 5:22–23Romans 12:18–19Colossians 2:20–23
Works / People Mentioned• Moody Bible Institute anecdotes• Traditional Jewish fast days• Rabbinic interpretations on fasting• “Bread of Life” and firstfruits themes• Dr. Rosalie Rosette (cell phone fasting exercise)

Monday Nov 24, 2025
Monday Nov 24, 2025
In this Thanksgiving episode of Naughty vs Nice, Todd and Laura untangle one of the most misunderstood ideas in Western Christianity: gratitude vs. biblical thankfulness.
Most modern believers describe thankfulness as a list of positive life circumstances—family, health, income, stability. But Scripture frames thankfulness as something radically different: covenant loyalty, submission to God, recognition of His provision, and joy in the Kingdom we already belong to.
Todd exposes how Western church culture has absorbed occult thinking without realizing it, treating “gratitude” as a self-generated emotional state—similar to manifestation, vibration language, and New Age positivity techniques. Laura unpacks how Paul’s idea of thankfulness is anchored in something far deeper: the seen gospel, the new kingdom, the body of Christ, redemption, and the rescue from darkness—realities no circumstance can take away.
Together they explore:• Why “gratitude journals” and “be more positive” advice often shut believers down• The difference between self-generated positivity and Spirit-rooted thankfulness• How the occult reframes gratitude as a tool for self-empowerment• Why Paul could rejoice in prison, shipwrecks, and suffering• How thankfulness is connected to covenant loyalty, obedience, humility, and truth• Why every believer should anchor their joy in the Kingdom that is now and not yet• How relationships in the body of Christ shape true thankfulness• Why suffering cannot cancel the gratitude rooted in Christ’s work
Packed with Scripture, honesty, humor, and the occasional murderous-Honda joke, this conversation reframes Thanksgiving in a way that actually aligns with the Bible—far beyond the Western version built on positivity and circumstances.
📚 REFERENCES
Scripture Cited1 Chronicles 16:8–15James 1:171 Thessalonians 5:18Psalm 95:2–6Deuteronomy 17–18Colossians 1:13–14Philippians 42 Peter 3Revelation (various passages on endurance)
People / Sources Mentioned• Marcus Aurelius• Tony Robbins• Esther Hicks (Law of Attraction)• “The Secret” / manifestation language• Strong’s Concordance (discussed generally)• church cultural practices (gratitude journals, forced positivity)

Monday Dec 01, 2025
Monday Dec 01, 2025
In this powerful episode of Naughty vs Nice, Todd and Laura sit down with Bible teacher and licensed clinical mental health counselor Mandy Cornett to tackle one of the hardest—and most avoided—subjects in modern Christianity: how trauma, narcissism, marriage, abuse, and mental health intersect with the church... and how often the church gets it wrong.
With warmth, honesty, and decades of experience in Scripture and counseling, Mandy helps untangle the confusion around:• Why “honoring your parents” has been misused to keep people in unsafe situations• Why many churches idolize marriage at the expense of the abused• Why labeling everything simply “sin” prevents real healing• How narcissists weaponize marriage counseling• What pastors misunderstand about repentance, patterns, and personality disorders• The difference between garden-variety marital conflict and destructive relational patterns• Why women in unsafe marriages feel spiritually trapped• How childhood attachment, trauma, and the limbic system shape adult behavior• Why Jesus’ hidden years model the ministry of simply being present• How spiritual bypassing (“just forgive,” “just pray more”) stunts real growth• Why humility, confession, and admitting you were wrong build more trust than perfection ever will• What trauma-informed narrative work is and how it helps believers heal without abandoning faith
Mandy breaks down neurobiology in a way that clicks:• How the limbic system scans for “Am I safe?” and “Am I connected?”• Why children aren’t “manipulative”—they’re seeking safety• Why the brain doesn’t know the difference between “now” and “then” in trauma• Why you can’t “Bible verse” your way out of limbic responses• How naming and narrating your story helps you regain choice and agency
This episode brings clarity, dignity, and hope to anyone who has felt unseen, unheard, or spiritually pressured to stay in harm’s way. It reframes therapy not as a “lack of faith,” but as a God-honoring tool that aligns with truth, love, and healing.
📚 REFERENCES
Scripture Cited
Luke 2:52Isaiah 61Genesis 2:241 Corinthians 13Romans 12Romans 13Galatians 5:22–23Matthew 61 Peter 3Philippians 4Colossians 1Various narrative references to the Gospels (Jesus’ hidden years, woman at the well)
People / Works / Concepts Mentioned
• Johari Window• Trauma-Informed Narrative Therapy• Limbic System & Neurobiology of Trauma• Attachment Theory (Attunement, Containment, Rupture/Repair)• Narcissistic Behavior Patterns• Rapture prophecy cycles (as illustration of authenticity & humility)• “Spiritual Bypassing”• Child developmental neuropsychology
Guest
Mandy Cornett — Bible teacher, author, inductive study leader, and licensed clinical mental health counseling associate.

Monday Dec 08, 2025
Monday Dec 08, 2025
What happens when the church is so committed to “saving marriages” that it accidentally protects wolves and sacrifices the wounded?
In this follow-up conversation to their interview with Mandy, Todd and Laura (with Producer Kelly on mic) zoom in on patterns of abuse—especially in “Christian” marriages—and why so many church responses actually make things worse.
They unpack:
The cycle of abuse – honeymoon → tension → incident → rupture/repair → honeymoon again… and why pastors usually get invited in right at the fake “repair” stage when the abuser is on their absolute best behavior.
“It was just a joke” and other minimizations – how sexual comments, subtle threats, containment (“you’re not allowed to leave this room”), and constant criticism create little-t trauma that’s just as real and damaging over time.
Predators who “find Jesus” – Todd talks about manipulators who use a dramatic conversion story, a new Bible, and all the right language as a hard reset so they can keep abusing for another decade—especially in churches that confuse love with tolerance.
When headship becomes ownership – Laura traces how wedding imagery (unity candles, sand ceremonies) and bad teaching about “submission” can turn wives into property, conditioning them to accept patterns of control as “godly.”
Why traditional marriage counseling can be dangerous – the crew explains why joint counseling with a true narcissist or chronic abuser usually just arms him with new weapons, and why separate counseling and clear boundaries are often safer and wiser.
Real change vs. performance – they contrast slow, quiet, Spirit-led growth (measured in 5-degree shifts over years) with the instant, 100% overnight “I’m a new man!” transformation that’s almost always pure manipulation.
If you’re a pastor, elder, small-group leader, or friend walking with someone in a destructive marriage, this episode will help you:
Stop treating entrenched abuse like a “communication issue”
Recognize that repeated patterns matter more than teary apologies
Understand why sometimes the most Christlike response is removing a wolf, not sending a lamb back into the pen with him
And if you’re the one who’s been told you’re “overreacting,” “too sensitive,” or “not submissive enough,” this conversation is a reminder: you’re not crazy, your nervous system isn’t lying, and you are not the second sacrificial lamb.
References
Scripture mentionedNone explicitly cited in this episode (discussion centers on theology of marriage, abuse, and church practice rather than specific verse exposition).
Other references
Prior Naughty vs Nice episode featuring Mandy (licensed clinical mental health counseling associate) on trauma, attachment, and the brain
General secular domestic violence statistics and narcissistic abuse literature (especially around lethality risk when a woman returns after physical violence)
Dateline (NBC true-crime series) as an anecdotal reference point for common abuse narratives in church contexts







