Naughty vs Nice: A Christian Podcast

72: How to Tell the Difference Between True and Fake Spirituality

How do you discern real moves of the Spirit from counterfeits? In this conversation, we examine Scripture, false signs, and the biblical evidence for Spirit-filled living
What is the Holy Spirit—and how does He function within the Trinity? In this episode of Naughty vs. Nice, Todd and Laura dive deep into the personhood, power, and purpose of the Holy Spirit. They unpack centuries-old misunderstandings, expose cultural and occult counterfeits, and emphasize the Spirit’s true mission: to glorify Christ and edify the Church.
Whether you’ve grown up in church or are just now exploring the Christian faith, this conversation offers essential clarity on a topic often clouded by confusion. Is the Holy Spirit a force or a person? What does it mean to be sealed by Him? And how can believers discern between supernatural experiences from God versus spiritual deception?
This episode tackles:
Why the Holy Spirit is not an abstract energy
The historical context of the Trinity
Discernment in the age of counterfeit spirituality
The empowering presence of the Spirit in the believer's life
Why the gifts of the Spirit are for the body, not personal gain
How occult practices can mimic—but never replicate—the Holy Spirit
Whether you’re wrestling with modern church culture or hungry for deeper truth, this episode will equip you with insight, Scripture, and Spirit-led discernment.
Keywords: Holy Spirit, Trinity, Christian faith, occult, personhood, discernment, cultural Christianity, supernatural experiences, church edification, spiritual gifts

73: P*rn in the Pews

In this hard-hitting episode, Todd, Laura, and Kelly confront one of the most ignored yet devastating issues in the modern Church: pornography. With over 54% of practicing Christians admitting to watching porn, the statistics are staggering—and the silence from the pulpit is deafening.
The conversation exposes the cultural normalization of pornography, its psychological impact on relationships, and how technology has weaponized sexual addiction. From the spiritual and occult undercurrents of porn to its role in 60% of divorces, this episode uncovers how deep the problem runs—and why the Church must stop looking away.
You'll hear about:
The escalating addiction among youth
How porn rewires sexual expectations
The dehumanization of intimacy
The growing threat of virtual reality pornography
The disturbing links between porn and abuse
The Church’s failure to address the issue head-on
Practical resources for healing and breaking free
Whether you're a church leader, parent, or struggling Christian—this conversation will challenge you to rethink what you’ve accepted as “normal.” It’s time to face the truth.
Reference Links: Your Brain on Porn by Gary Wilson*, Covenant Eyes Statistics, Fight the New Drug, Canopy
Keywords: pornography, Christian, church, relationships, addiction, statistics, technology, abuse, culture, spirituality, sex magic, virtual reality porn, porn in Christianity
*Affiliate Link Used

74: Who are Angels and Demons?

Are angels and demons just symbolic—or are they spiritual realities with ancient roots and modern consequences? In this episode, Todd, Laura, and Kelly go beyond surface-level faith to uncover what the Bible really says about the supernatural realm. From the mysterious Nephilim to the unseen battle of spiritual warfare, they expose how Christianity intersects with ancient occult beliefs and why the church must reclaim a supernatural worldview. You'll hear how angels operate, where demons come from, and how the cross of Christ changes everything.
Whether you're curious about the origins of spiritual beings, skeptical about the supernatural, or hungry for a deeper understanding of spiritual warfare, this episode connects history, theology, and real-world implications with bold clarity.

75: Should Christians Fear Demons?

Is every spiritual struggle demonic? Can a believer be possessed? What authority do Christians actually have in spiritual warfare? In this provocative episode, Todd, Laura, and Kelly confront the tension between supernatural reality and church silence. They unpack the biblical framework for demonic influence, draw the line between possession and oppression, and challenge the modern church’s reluctance to address the unseen realm.
This isn't a ghost story—this is a wake-up call.
From firsthand encounters to deep scriptural insights, the crew emphasizes the importance of discernment, identity in Christ, and the active power of the Holy Spirit. Whether you're skeptical or spiritually sensitive, this episode pulls back the curtain on spiritual warfare—and reminds believers of the authority already given to them.
Keywords: spiritual warfare, demons, Christian authority, possession vs. influence, discernment, supernatural, Holy Spirit, faith, church responsibility

76: Nephilim and the Roots of the Occult

In this episode of Naughty vs Nice, Todd, Laura, and Kelly tackle one of the Bible’s strangest and most avoided subjects: the Nephilim. What were they, and why do ancient stories of half-god kings, fallen angels, and divine bloodlines keep showing up in modern culture, religion, and even media?
From DMT elves to ancient myths, from Genesis 6 to genetic manipulation—this isn’t just wild speculation. It's a deep dive into the spiritual forces behind today’s ideologies, from postmodernism to Luciferian influence in cultural narratives.
You’ll hear how misunderstandings about angels and demons have created confusion in the church, how the occult subtly shapes modern education and media, and why believers must recognize the ancient battle that’s still unfolding today.
This one connects the dots. And yes, it’s all psycho.
🔑 Topics Covered:
Biblical origins of the Nephilim and fallen angels
How occult beliefs mirror ancient doctrines
Luciferian influence in postmodern culture
Why spiritual literacy matters for the next generation
Cultural echoes of half-god kings and divine rule
💡 Quote of the Episode:
"DMT elves—they're demons. Nothing’s new under the sun."

77: Interview: Luke from What's the Point Anyway? Podcast

From Secularism to Sacrament: Luke’s Journey into Faith and Fatherhood
📖 Episode Description:In this deeply personal and thought-provoking episode of Naughty vs Nice, Todd and Laura sit down with Luke McInnes from the What’s the Point Anyway podcast to explore his unexpected journey from secularism to Christianity—and eventually to Catholicism.
Luke shares how the upheaval of the pandemic opened the door to belief, how becoming a father transformed his understanding of love and responsibility, and how his search for truth led him through hard questions, uncomfortable realizations, and ultimately into the traditions of the Catholic Church.
This is more than a conversion story. It’s a conversation about the evolving nature of faith, the tension between doctrine and experience, and the urgent need for humility, unity, and grace within the body of Christ.
🎧 Highlights Include:
Why parenthood reshapes spiritual priorities
The tension between Protestant and Catholic beliefs
The importance of personal experience in understanding God
How unity in the Church must be pursued—not assumed
A raw look at the role of ego, argument, and genuine dialogue in faith
🔊 Sound Bites:
"I was very secular in my twenties.""I was as anti-Catholic as anyone.""The church needs to be unified."
🙌 Whether you're Catholic, Protestant, or somewhere in between—this is a conversation worth having.
References: Kit Culver: God with Us series; What's the Point, Anyway? Podcast

78: INTERVIEW: Engaging the Next Generation

In this heartfelt and eye-opening episode of Naughty vs. Nice, Todd and Laura sit down with Laura’s oldest son and his wife—two twenty-something “nobodies” with something real to say. What unfolds is a raw, cross-generational conversation about marriage, modern culture, and the battle to follow Jesus in a world full of noise.
From the influence of education and the subtle creep of occult ideas into Christian spaces, to the ways social media distorts intimacy and the purpose of relationships, the couple shares their honest experiences navigating life, love, and faith. Together, the four dive into what it means to engage with Scripture beyond the surface, why marriage should be a growth partnership—not just a comfort zone—and how the generational divide can be bridged with humility and truth.
Takeaways:
Jesus is the answer, the only answer.
Understanding the Bible demands depth, not just devotion.
Social media is shaping a synthetic version of connection.
Cultural pressures and occult influences can subtly distort our understanding of Christian identity.
Chapters:00:00 – Naughty vs. Nice: Personal Journeys01:26 – Engaging the Younger Generation06:07 – Marriage and Relationships in Modern Times10:29 – Education and Social Pressures18:02 – The Influence of Occult Concepts25:18 – Understanding Christian Teachings34:56 – Generational Differences and Cultural Shifts42:05 – Navigating Social Media and Relationships

79: INTERVIEW: Engaging the Next Generation: Part Two

🎙️ Naughty vs. Nice: Generational Perspectives on Christianity – Part Two
In this powerful continuation, Todd and Laura sit down once again with their son and his wife to dig even deeper into the generational differences shaping the modern Christian experience. With honesty and humor, they examine the spiritual confusion that can arise from duality in belief, the subtle invasion of cultural values into church life, and the struggle to address real-world issues like pornography and disconnection.
This episode explores:
Why understanding evil is essential to understanding faith
How authentic relationships foster spiritual growth
The challenges of integrating science, education, and belief
Why parents (and mentors) matter more than ever in shaping faith
How modern Christianity must evolve to meet a fragmented world
From first impressions to lasting spiritual impact, this is a raw and relatable conversation about what it means to truly follow Jesus in a distracted, divided, and digital age.
“Jesus is the only answer that fulfills you.”“Authentic relationships are key to spiritual growth.”“Duality in faith leads to conflict—clarity leads to freedom.”
🔖 Chapters:00:00 Naughty vs. Nice: Personal Journeys01:08 Generational Perspectives on Faith04:27 Understanding Evil and Spiritual Warfare08:47 Parents & Church: Who's Teaching?11:13 Faith, Duality, and Internal Conflict14:12 Community as the Backbone of Belief20:07 Faith Meets Science and Culture25:05 Addressing Modern Challenges Head-On30:31 What Authenticity Really Looks Like36:06 Cultural Differences in Church Life40:01 Mentorship and First Impressions51:38 Building the Next Generation of Believers55:56 Creating Space for Hard Conversations