Naughty vs Nice: A Christian Podcast
Naughty vs Nice is a Christian podcast that takes Scripture seriously—especially where modern Christianity often doesn’t.
Rather than echoing popular church culture, we examine what the Bible actually teaches and where cultural assumptions, soft doctrines, and misplaced authority have quietly reshaped Christian belief. Many of the ideas treated as “biblical” today simply aren’t—and the consequences show up in marriages, churches, and personal faith.
Each episode walks carefully through Scripture in context, asking harder questions:
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What does the text actually say?
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What assumptions have we imported into it?
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What happens when the church teaches the wrong thing?
The topics are often controversial and unpopular—not because we’re chasing outrage, but because truth rarely aligns with comfort or trends.
This podcast isn’t about inspiration or self-affirmation.
It’s about discernment, responsibility, and faithfulness to the Word.
If you’ve sensed that parts of modern Christianity feel off—but you still care deeply about Scripture—this podcast is for you.
Naughty vs Nice is a Christian podcast that takes Scripture seriously—especially where modern Christianity often doesn’t.
Rather than echoing popular church culture, we examine what the Bible actually teaches and where cultural assumptions, soft doctrines, and misplaced authority have quietly reshaped Christian belief. Many of the ideas treated as “biblical” today simply aren’t—and the consequences show up in marriages, churches, and personal faith.
Each episode walks carefully through Scripture in context, asking harder questions:
-
What does the text actually say?
-
What assumptions have we imported into it?
-
What happens when the church teaches the wrong thing?
The topics are often controversial and unpopular—not because we’re chasing outrage, but because truth rarely aligns with comfort or trends.
This podcast isn’t about inspiration or self-affirmation.
It’s about discernment, responsibility, and faithfulness to the Word.
If you’ve sensed that parts of modern Christianity feel off—but you still care deeply about Scripture—this podcast is for you.
Episodes

Monday Aug 04, 2025
80: UNEDITED: How this Past Year Has Grown Our Faith
Monday Aug 04, 2025
Monday Aug 04, 2025
🎙️ One Year Later: Faith, Friction, and Finding Our VoiceAn Honest Reflection with Todd, Laura & Kelly
In this raw and unfiltered anniversary episode, Todd, Laura, and Kelly pull back the curtain on what it’s been like doing a full year of Naughty vs. Nice. With no script and no edits, they reflect on the personal and spiritual shifts that have marked their journey—both behind the mic and in the church pews.
They discuss:
The emotional toll of confronting church culture and bad theology
How their views on leadership, especially women in ministry, have evolved
Nuance in theology—and why they’re not afraid of hard conversations
Dealing with trust issues and spiritual burnout
The cost (and beauty) of building an honest, biblical community
From laughter to lament, it’s all here: the doubts, the breakthroughs, the unexpected turns—and the courage to keep going.
"We're taking June off!""I want to talk about nuance.""I'm so excited!"
🔖 Chapters:00:00 Welcome Back and Studio Excitement03:35 Announcing Breaks and Personal Updates06:33 Reflecting on a Year of Podcasting09:21 The Emotional Toll of Church Changes12:28 The Weight of Responsibility in Theology15:27 Reconnecting with Faith and Community18:31 Exploring Theological Changes and Growth21:22 Trust Issues and Church Leadership24:21 Women in Leadership and Theological Nuances27:10 Cultural Influences on Theology30:20 The Complexity of Biblical Interpretation33:06 Future Topics and Podcast Direction
This episode isn’t polished—but it’s honest. And that’s the point.

Monday Aug 11, 2025
81: Unmasking the Anti-Christ
Monday Aug 11, 2025
Monday Aug 11, 2025
Unmasking the Antichrist: A Deeper Dive into Scripture, Deception, and Discernment
In this episode of Naughty vs Nice, Todd, Laura, and Kelly tackle one of the most misunderstood topics in Christian theology—the Antichrist. Far from being just a singular political figure from the End Times, Scripture reveals the Antichrist as a spirit and system that has been at work since the first century—often operating within the church and disguised as a form of Christianity.
Through biblical interpretation, the hosts examine how pop culture and modern church traditions have shaped misconceptions about the Antichrist, replacing scriptural truth with sensationalized fiction. They explore the narrow road Jesus spoke of—not as a path separating Christians from the world, but as the hard-to-discern truth found within the body of believers.
Listeners will learn:
Why the Antichrist spirit thrives through deception and false doctrine.
How Gnosticism and early heresies still influence church thinking today.
Why the incarnation of Christ is central to resisting false teaching.
How spiritual warfare often comes from within the Christian community.
Why knowing Scripture deeply is the only safeguard against the wide road of counterfeit Christianity.
If you’ve ever wondered how to recognize false prophets, discern truth from error, and resist the spirit of Antichrist in our time, this episode will challenge what you think you know—and point you back to the authority of God’s Word.

Thursday Aug 14, 2025
82: Who Is the Man of Lawlessness? Exposing Paul’s End Times Warning
Thursday Aug 14, 2025
Thursday Aug 14, 2025
In 2 Thessalonians, Paul warns about the Man of Lawlessness. Who is he, and what does it mean for the church today? We connect prophecy, history, and Scripture to expose this mysterious figure.
In this episode of Naughty vs Nice, Todd, Laura, and Kelly take a deep dive into one of the Bible’s most misunderstood figures — the man of lawlessness — and his close connection to the Antichrist. Drawing from scripture rather than pop culture hype, they unpack how lawlessness, deception, and apostasy will impact the visible church in the end times.
From Judas as a biblical model of betrayal to the subtle ways false leaders infiltrate the faith, this conversation reveals why discernment is vital for every believer. They challenge cultural assumptions about Christian morality, warn against the slow corruption of belief, and expose how professing believers could become part of the great apostasy.
Whether you’re studying end times prophecy or simply seeking to strengthen your faith, this discussion will help you recognize false teachings, examine your own walk, and stay grounded in the truth of God’s Word.
Timestamps & Topics:
Antichrist vs. Man of Lawlessness
Mystery of Lawlessness vs. Mystery of Godliness
The great apostasy explained
How cultural pressures distort Christian faith
Self-examination and spiritual vigilance

Monday Aug 18, 2025
83: What Does the Bible Say About the End Times and God’s Kingdom?
Monday Aug 18, 2025
Monday Aug 18, 2025
End Times & the Eternal Kingdom: Daniel, Revelation, and the Real Hope of Christianity
Many believe the kingdom of God is only future — but Scripture says otherwise. Join us as we explore the “already and not yet” reality of God’s kingdom and what it means for Christians today.
In a time when end-times speculation is everywhere, this episode of Naughty vs. Nice digs deeper. Todd, Laura, and Kelly unpack the prophetic dreams of Daniel and their critical connection to the book of Revelation—revealing a timeline of human history that leads not to escape, but to the arrival of a very real kingdom.
They explore the symbolism of the statue and the four beasts, challenge Western assumptions about prophecy, and redefine Christian hope—not as a future rescue, but as a present reality in Christ’s reign. If you've ever wrestled with rapture timelines, Antichrist theories, or what the kingdom of God actually is, this one’s for you.
👉 Topics covered:
What the statue in Daniel really represents
The four beasts and the rise of earthly empires
How Daniel unlocks Revelation’s symbols
Why “hope” isn’t just waiting for Jesus to return
The difference between biblical prophecy and popular fiction
📖 Scripture-heavy. Fluff-free. No flavor enhancers.

Thursday Aug 21, 2025
84: Who Are the Beasts in Revelation? Bible Prophecy Explained
Thursday Aug 21, 2025
Thursday Aug 21, 2025
Revelation’s beasts are some of the most mysterious figures in Scripture. Are they symbols, nations, or future rulers? We unpack Daniel and Revelation to reveal what the Bible really says about these prophetic beasts.
In this episode of Naughty vs Nice, we dive deep into the apocalyptic imagery of the Book of Revelation—specifically the mysterious beasts of Revelation 13. To understand these visions, we trace them back to the Book of Daniel, where prophecy first outlines the rise and fall of kingdoms, the little horn, and the ultimate authority behind it all.
The discussion unpacks:
Why Revelation cannot be understood apart from Daniel’s prophecies.
How the beast of the sea is a composite of historical empires like Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Rome.
What the little horn represents and why its emergence depends on Rome’s fragmentation.
How the dragon (Satan) empowers the beast with global authority.
Why the second beast of the earth acts as an enforcer and points all worship back to the first beast.
What the image of the beast really means—a socio-religious movement with cultural and political power.
How the mark of the beast is less about microchips and more about loyalty and worship.
Why discernment through Scripture is essential in avoiding deception.
Rather than viewing the beasts as single individuals, this conversation shows how they represent larger powers and systems that influence nations, culture, and faith. With biblical interpretation rooted in history, prophecy, and theology, this episode calls listeners to sharpen their discernment and recognize how authority and worship play central roles in end-times prophecy.
If you’ve ever wondered how Daniel and Revelation connect—or what the beasts really symbolize—this episode will give you clarity, context, and challenge the way you think about apocalyptic literature.

Monday Aug 25, 2025
85: Who Are We in Christ? The Incarnation and Our True Identity
Monday Aug 25, 2025
Monday Aug 25, 2025
The Depth of the Incarnation: Christ as Son of God and Son of Man
Many Christians know Jesus was both God and man — but what does that mean for who we are? In this episode, we explore how the incarnation redefines identity, purpose, and what it means to live as new creations in Christ.
Description:The incarnation of Christ is more than a doctrine—it’s the pivotal event of all Scripture. In this episode, Todd, Laura, and Kelly explore why understanding Jesus as both fully God and fully man changes everything about how we read the Bible, how we see reconciliation with God, and how we live as new creations in Christ.
Key themes include:
Why reconciliation began at Christ’s conception, not only at the cross.
How Adam and Israel point forward to the incarnation.
Why Jesus’ life shows us perfect humanity.
What it means to live as a new kind of human in Christ.
How the church often overlooks the depth of the incarnation.
Why the world seeks the things of God without truly knowing Him.
This conversation challenges the surface-level view of the incarnation and invites believers to see it as the foundation of theology, discipleship, and spiritual transformation.
#Incarnation #Theology #JesusChrist

Thursday Aug 28, 2025
86: Why Christ’s Humanity Matters: Suffering, Faith, and Hope
Thursday Aug 28, 2025
Thursday Aug 28, 2025
Why did Jesus have to suffer as a human? We dig into the incarnation, exploring how Christ’s suffering shapes our faith and offers real hope in our own struggles.
In this episode of Naughty vs. Nice, Todd, Laura, and Kelly reflect on aging, memory lapses, and what it means to live as “indoor cats”—before diving deep into the heart of Christian faith: the incarnation of Christ. Together they explore how the humanity of Jesus transforms our understanding of suffering, reconciliation, and spiritual growth.
The conversation highlights why the incarnation matters far beyond Christmas theology—showing that reconciliation with God begins at Christ’s conception and continues through His life, death, and resurrection. They challenge listeners to ground themselves in Scripture, to see suffering as a means of transformation, and to pursue a deeper relationship with God beyond the basics of salvation.
From modern temptations to the lifelong tension of living as citizens of a new kingdom, this episode encourages believers to anchor themselves in Christ’s example and walk faithfully in a world that often resists truth.

Monday Sep 01, 2025
87: Is Tech Eating Us Alive? with Dr. Rosalie de Rosset
Monday Sep 01, 2025
Monday Sep 01, 2025
Tech runs our lives—but is it running us into the ground? In this episode, we dig into how phones, screens, and “digital everything” have hijacked the classroom, rewired our relationships, and even crept into sacred spaces. Dr. Rosalie de Rosset joins us to call it like it is: we’re celebrating mediocrity, mistaking convenience for connection, and slowly being digested by entertainment.
But it’s not all doom and gloom—we talk about how to push back. From family dinners without phones to media fasts that reset your soul, we explore what it looks like to actually live instead of scroll. Faith, freedom, and real connection are on the line. The future is now…so what are we doing with it?
Dr. Rosalie de Rosset —a professor, writer, and literary voice who spent over 50 years teaching students how to think deeply in a world that increasingly refuses to. With a fierce love for language and a sharp eye for cultural drift, she’s long warned that technology isn’t just changing how we communicate—it’s dulling how we reason, create, and imagine. Today, we’re asking her: what have we traded away in our rush to stay connected?







